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of dollars from medicare and medicaid short change the people who need it the most. if you don't want seniors to come up empty, call your members of congress and tell them don't make a bad deal that cuts our care. neil: if that doesn't tell you real cuts are not coming, neighbor 101 democratic congressman want not to cut social security could drop a hint coming days after the national black cause cues coming further urging all entitlements, not just social security, be left off the cliff talks. you wonder why i fear we had headed for the cliff fast. welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. that's really the deal this week. no deal this week. hence, that if one of the seriously coming behind closed doors, it's one that risks closing off needed cuts. now that democrats keep taking so much off the table, i don't know about you, but the only concrete thing from washington is pretty much how much to hike taxes, not how much to cut spending. should that worry us? it's a deal so disportioned in raising taxes and not cutting spending, what then? a lot of pressure to keep the gravy train running. what if
the table. >> moment yoize social security or voucherize medicare or block grant medicaid you lose us. >> but the new forbes report showing that moreeople in the states are taking money from the government than the private sector, can our nation afford a deal that doesn't put so-called entitlements on the table. i am dave. we'll go t mike, to you. we have to put entitlements on the table? >> for the sake of the over all economy we must put enments on the table. over the last four years entitlement spending is growing faster than the over all economy. this is why president obama has this country in record debt. that hurt the economy. take-home pay decreased under president obama. we must get entitlements under control. >> rick at the unemployment and housing vouchers. it is 800 billion extra spending. doesn't that have to be cut. >> there is no chance that there will be a dole without entitlement cuts. what senator durbin is talking about is the importance of focusing. if we want a deal you will not doing by taking a wide sprect rum approach. president clinton was clear when he spoke t
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, you get mishmash from them. you get $100 billion in medicare savings by increasing the retirement age from 65 to 67. you get some unspecified savings from reducing social security. the only specifics if you add them up are about $300 billion or $400 billion in specific cuts, the rest are inspecific. this is the party whose fundamental premise is to cut government spending. you ask them to identify how they want to do it, and they start speaking in gibberish. it shows you this is a phony, phony movement on the part of conservatives to cut government spending. >> absolutely. ari, the president took a question on twitter this afternoon. quote, what is your opposition to taking away deductions for the 2% rather than upping the rate? seems like a reasonable compromise. his answer, not enough revenue unless you end charitable deductions. he's right, isn't he? the math doesn't add up. it didn't add up with mitt romney. it doesn't add up today. >> it doesn't add up, and those targeted revenue measures serve certain goals that we actually care about more than helping billionaires. those goals
for medicare, medicaid and long-term social security. the mere fact were discussing those things is good. in terms of the votes, if it's going to be a deal they will be those from both sides. reality is -- these two guys come in the president and the speaker had so with one another before. they came to a huge deal during the lame-duck section in 2012. they came to another big deal about shutting down the government in april 2011, cutting discretionary spending the billions of dollars. he came to another in the debt ceiling deal as well which is a $2.2 trillion long-term deduction in exchange for an increase in the debt ceiling. they need to take it to another level. this is a bigger, more complex problem and it's the beginning of a series of negotiations. they're going to be together for the next four years. the president won the election, the republicans on the house and frankly are not likely to lose in a midterm election and a second-year presidency. john boehner is speaker for four years and hopefully this is the beginning of a productive relationship. >> host: unison news last week
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in this discussion. one is what would you do with respect to reducing the growth of spending in medicare? what specific steps are you willing to put on the table? >> well, let me give you something that -- it's very sensitive. but end of life is where 70% of the medicare dollars go, and yet we have a society where most people will not do a living will. i did a living will with my 90-year-old dad. it was very difficult. he died shortly after. but he told me, hey, do not keep me on life support, it costs a lot of money, plus i don't want it. if do you it, i'll come back and haunt you. but it was a good process. i see as a member of congress so many people who are estranged from their parents, they've moved away, had a falling out 20 years ago but they're the ones that say do whatever you can to keep mom and dad alive until i can get back to town. you know, if you have a living will, you're going to save lots of money. i think one of the potential discussion points is should we require living wills. that would save a tremendous amount of money in medicare. we can also revisit tort reform because
, means testing on taxes? medicare for more affluent recipients, excluding my wife? >> let me just say that we would support a balanced approach, and it is important to point out, as senator warner did, that we have done over $1 trillion in cuts in the next 10 years which the president is committed to keeping. with respect to medicare, we do have a very different approach to dealing with medicare. there is no doubt we have to bring down medicare health-care cost growth. the difference is that we believe we should expand on the kind of reforms that we made in the affordable care act, where we achieved billion about $716 billion in savings, not simply by across the board provider cuts, but by changing the incentive structure, the way we pay providers so we focus on the value of care, not the volume of care. i think it is ironic that we have gone in the last four weeks from many of our republican colleagues criticizing the president for having done too much in savings on medicare, $716 billion -- their presidential candidate proposed putting that money back in, in other words adding $716
said i'm willing to do that in order to get serious cuts to social security and medicare. bye-bye [ applause ] >> stephanie: senator lindsay graham. >> i met with jim demint this morning, and to say i was stunned is an understatement. he has always been a friend somebody i could count on. we have really enjoyed our time together. >> wait a minute go back. >> stephanie: once again, another stunned moment for me! vapors. >> we had some wonderful times together. >> something tells me that lindsay graham has clutched some pearls before. >> as god as my witness i will never go hungry again. >> compared to jim demint is a stark-raving mad liberal. >> stephanie: and senator harry reid. >> i have always liked the guy, and even though i disagree with so much of what he has done i appreciate -- i personally believe he does this out of a sense of real belief. i like jim demint and wish him well. [ inaudible ] >> stephanie: all right. [ buzzer ] >> stephanie: stop it. stop it. he comes out of a belief that he deserves to make more money. >> yeah. [ bell chimes ] [ appla
. there was no medicare. it has been pretty stable since 1980. it goes up and down with the business cycle, but it is pretty stable. this is the division between the right and left. who will continue to fight about bigger government and smaller government. we will not do it by refusing to pay for the government we have, thinking the economy in the process. that would be a good start, as a backdrop. i want to touch on your question about corporate and individual taxes. the third piece is small businesses. we work out how develop a tax code that is good for competitiveness. you need to think about how those play into it. i think one of the things to keep hearing through messages with different groups of people is, while everybody is aware that the solution is going to take sacrifices from all sides, on spending, on revenues -- the confidence you get for putting the deal in place to actually has tremendous economic benefits. the cheapest form of stimulus is confidence. if we can put that in place, and people believe something is going to stick, it becomes easier to do your part in all of this
who are, you know, middle class, seniors who are on medicare, young people who are trying to get student loans to go to college. i can't ask them to sacrifice and not ask anything of higher income folks. lou: great news on the economy, will higher taxes screw it up? two of the best economic thinkers join us, deutsche bank senior u.s. correspondents will be here joining us next. detroit on the edge of bankruptcy as city councilwoman with a rather direct, plain spoken solution saying it's simple. the city voted for obama. now obama must bail out mo-town, next. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and psonal attention. which is why we arare proud to parer with healh care professionals who understand the difference that quality time with our members can me... that's a very nice cake! ohh! [ giggles [ le announcer ] humana thanks the physicians, nurses, hospitals, pharmacists and other health professionals w helped us achieve the highest average star rating among n
taxes, but you're going to be the ones tocut medicare. if you want cuts in entitlements, but the mob. i'm not going to do both for you. lou: here is a thought. that is, the obama white house has made a rare mistake, miscalculation. they have incentivized republicans to say, you know, the heck with it. if you're not going to come to the table, we are not going to advance it. you have chosen and we have reached an agreement as to parties for sequestration. we will go along with the tax cuts. that's your decision. sequestration was part -- we are partners on that deal. let her rip. they're going to get twice as much in the way of spending cuts as an increase in taxes that way it's the best deal, and it's also oriented toward the republicans favored. >> the damage it will do to the economy. i don't think the president has a bigger role as he thinks he is. the house will be held by republicans for the foreseeable future, not just two years. midterm elections, six years, sterile for the president. the end of the day he wan a legacy. it's going to be the highest unemployment in history for two
-- >> stephanie: these two guys, whatever their names are they said despite sweeping changes to medicare and medicaid, paul ryan's budget didn't make deep enough cuts to entitlement. those guys. yeah, that wasn't quite mean enough. [ applause ] >> i would be surprised if boehner kept his leadership position in the next congress. >> stephanie: really? >> yeah. because he's not -- >> stephanie: i picture eric cantor rubbing his hands together like snidely whiplash. >> he can't keep the caucus together. the republicans are famous for staying together. he can't keep them together. >> flabbergasted! >> that's doing a bad job. >> stephanie: he's flabbergasted at his own caucus. [mumbling] >> stephanie: by the way doesn't he get drunker every day? hey, john in new jersey, go ahead. >> caller: i'm john weston and i'm dyslexic. i thought what they did in congress was a national tragedy. i did -- the thing i'm saying is these republicans really look like they're totally nuts. and one thing i will tell you is i'm still dealin
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that stood out to us was $600 billion in proposed savings in medicare reforms. how? in part by raising the age of eligibility to 65 to maybe 67. turning down the gop proposal, dan pfieffer said, quote, it provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which medicare savings they would achieve." let's head now to the white house and dan lothian. the white house will not offer a counter proposal, right? what's going on here? >> reporter: well, you know, i think the white house is digging in. the president said early on in this process that he would only sit down and really move forward, negotiate on this in any meaningful way if the tax hikes for the wealthy expired. and republicans have been pushing back on that -- tax breaks rather for the wealthy expired and republicans have been pushing back on that, say they go believe that will be harmful for the economic recovery because wealthy americans are the ones who are creating the jobs and helping to turn this economy around. that remains the big sticking point. those bush era tax cuts, whi
to pay. she paid into medicare many years. i think all seniors need to be aware and be prepared that this is what will happen to them. that's my experience. host: in philadelphia, rick is a democratic caller. caller: i cannot believe i got through. the last time i spoke with c- span was 2003. give me about a minute and 30 seconds. host: go! caller: i think barack obama should keep doing what he is doing, hold his ground. i think it is cold hearted and evil that these rich people don't want to pay what needs to be paid to keep the country running. everybody in the capital -- what is the definition of entitlement? people in the capital get pensions and free health care for not even doing anything, and personal cars and things like that. so do they want to be a country unto themselves, a country of texas or a country of florida? host: running out of time. we only have about 30 minutes for open phones this morning. i will have to let you go. the hottest property to emerge from obama's victory over the running is not the much lauded campaign theme, is something far more valuable that
i'm willing to do stuff on entitlements. there's talk about raising medicare age, the social security cost of living adjustment, but boehner is just stuck in this corner on rates. >> hey, mike barnicle, we're talking about the president right now because a lot of us believe, you know, that's where the buck stops, and that's where you get the negotiations going. we don't want to overlook, though, a new "washington post"/pew research poll that shows americans are blaming the problems of these negotiations on republicans. 53% are blaming congressional republicans. 27% are blaming barack obama. 12% are blaming both equally republicans are shouldering the blame by a 2-1 margin. and of those polled, 49% don't expect a deal to be reached by a deadline compared to 40% who do. here we have, again, a serious problem with republican branding. and branding comes from reality. people -- their natural instinct is to blame the republican party when standoffs like this occur. >> i'm surprised the number of 53% is that low. i would think it would be much higher than that. people get their new
a trillion dollars in savings to medicare without doing any harm to beneficiaries and extended the life of medicare. what is lacking are the revenues. you cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. what does reduce the deficit are jobs, job creation. have the spending cuts, we have the medicare savings, what we need are the revenues. and that is what you have to ask the question, why are we not here to pass the middle income tax cut which unleashes the high end -- increases the high end contribution to the budget talks. why are we not here to pass the middle income tax cut? why are we not here to even debate the middle income tax cut? could it be because the republicans are holding the middle income tax cuts as they have all along hostage to tax cuts for the wealthy? as long as they will not touch one hair on the red or get one red scent from the high end we will never have the revenue with the save togs reduce the deficit, to create jobs and grow the economy and improve the lives of the american people. >> [inaudible] as i've cede before than subject, what we want to do is protect the m
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revenues. it did contain four specifics. four. cut medicare specific number one. $600 billion. cut medicaid, pays for nursing homes for seniors, of course. priority number two. three, cut the adequate cola for seniors on social security. even though 40% of seniors depend principally or totally upon social security and the cola already underestimated inflation particularly for medicare, essentials they need. cut that. not a driver of the deficit but, hey, cut that. one more specific. preserve the bush-era tax rates for income over $250,000. it's not a tax increase for everybody who earns over $250,000. it's only the income over $250,000 that would get additional taxes if the bush-era rates went away and the president's proposal was passed. but, no, they want to preserve -- totally preserve tax cuts for income over $250,000. they want to preserve the reduced capital gains rate and dividends rate which principally who ben pets, who else, millionaires and billionaires. now -- benefits, who else, millionaires and billionaires. they did have the jay wellington wimpy plan. you remember him? popeye
than any single thing of medicare and medicaid and longer-term social security, so the mere fact that we are discussing those types of things fit. in terms of the votes, look, if it's going to be a deal there has to be votes from both sides. the reality is -- and these guys, the president and the speaker dealt with one another before. they've never been able to come to a deal. they came to a huge deal during the lame-duck session in 2010 on extending the bush tax cuts. they came to another deal without shutting down the government in april of 2011 cutting discretionary spending by billions of dollars and they came to another one on the debt ceiling as well which was a 2.2 trillion dollar long-term reduction in exchange for an increase in the debt ceiling. so, you know, the need to take it to another level. this is a more complex problem, and it's the beginning of a series of negotiations between the two. they are going to be together for the next four years. the president won the election, the republicans won the house and frankly are not likely to lose the election in the second
-- the spending cuts on medicare. why don't we allow them to negotiate medicare and to reduce the cost of medicine? that should save you a lot of money yearly. i agree totally about the republicans and democrats spending money stupidly just before the election. both sides voted to refurbish something like 170 army tanks that the army said they'd do not need. they went and voted to repair those tanks. why are we wasting our money? democrats want to cut taxes. host: armstrong williams? guest: we haven't gotten to affordable care and medicare and medicaid. if affordable care was administered correctly and if he did not have the special interest groups and if tort reform was not included, package you move forward in making health care work for anyone if you do not bring tort reform to the table? the medical malpractice lawsuits are out of control where doctors are paranoid and have to think twice before going through these procedures. it becomes a nightmare for doctors. there are too many hands in the pot. the mentality in washington is that everybody has to get paid so they can be compensated. when a
? >> the bulk is going to entitlement programs like social security, medicare, medicaid. that's mandatory spending. it's been budgeted based off of what we spend on our taxes. the bulk of it is going there. 20% is going to defense. discretionary spending about 13% then the 7% interest which is the interest that we are paying on our debt. that's also mandatory. we have to make good on our debt. >> which is why anybody serious about the debt says you have to look at entitlements. based 0en that. where are the areas for compromise? >> so when you look at where they're talking about cutting spending, it's in the discretionary category. about $600 billion in discretionary spending is on the table now. when you actually look at the programs like social security and medicare, one of the ideas for compromise that's been on the table is increasing that age. the availability of medicare begins at 65. if you were to increase it to 67, about $250 billion in savings. also, if you look at medicare cost sharing. this is from the provider. if you go back to the providers to provide medicare and say to th
and for interest on a mortgage. you know, on medicare, start making more means testing for medicare premiums. right now, 95% of people get a 75% subsidy for their premium, irrespective of income and wealth. start having more means tested premiums for people above a certain level. there's a way to bridge this to a grand bargain. they need to get to work. >> david gergen, david walker, just gave you at least a short term path. but, but to get that short term path at least in the short term, sounds like the president would have to give up that trophy, the higher rates in the short term. you've advised four presidents, democrats and republicans. do you think this president is ready to do that? >> i'm not so sure, john. i have to tell you that over the last two years, i think it was the republicans who showed an arrogance, a resistance to sort of reasonable compromise, but since this election, there have been -- i think the democrats are the ones who are really trying to rub it in and almost humiliate the republicans, and that's not going to get to a bargain. again, i think it has to be win-win. david w
on issues like raising the eligibility age, the colas for social security, means testing, medicare for more influence -- affluent recipients >> first let me just say that we would support absolutely a balanced approach. it's important to point out as senator warner did that we have done over a trillion dollars in cuts over the next 10 years which the president is committed to keeping. with respect to medicare, we do have a very different approach. there's no doubt we have to bring down the health care costs growth. the differences we believe we should expand on the kind of reforms that we need in the affordable care acts. where we see $716 billion in savings, not simply across-the-board but by changing the incentive structure, the way we pay providers so we focus on the value of care rather than the volume of care. i do think it's ironic that we have gone in the last four weeks with many of our republican colleagues criticizing the president for having done too much savings on medicare, $716 billion am in their presidential candidate propose putting that money back and. in other words addin
in washington negotiate a bad deal on the bucket and deficit, what do you think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits. >> it stars two senator and two republican reps. cnn reports the labor unions are spending more than a half of million dollars on this round of spots. we're back with more steph after the break. stay with us. ♪ going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: okay. and as we mentioned, unemployment numbers. hello! [ ♪ patriotic music ♪ ] >> stephanie: the lowest in four years. >> wow! >> stephanie: it has dropped to 7.7%. >> you're welcome america, i did that. >> no, you didn't. >> stephanie: right. [ applause
reductions in entitlement programs such as medicare and social security, meanwhile house speaker john boehner has to win over hard liners in his own party. susan mcginnis is following it all. >> reporter: hi. good morning. there are some glimmers of common ground here among the two sides that could form the basis of a deal. the president is now talking about actually lowering the tax rate for the top 2% not now but later. and republicans are now taking some heat over their latest plan a lot of it from within their own party. >> five, four -- >> reporter: house speaker john boehner led the countdown to the lighting of the capitol hill christmas tree last night. >> one. >> reporter: but a different countdown weighs on the minds of these lawmakers, the countdown to the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end the year. >> god bless us, everyone. >> reporter: speaker boehner offered the republican proposal this week and now he faces opposition from president obama. >> the speaker's proposal is out of balance. >> reporter: some in his own party are lining
and say i am going to cut into medicare, you know, i don't know if they double it, but they come up with a lot more in the medicare cuts, are you prepared to vote for tax increases, first of all, are you prepared to go for higher tax rates at all? >> no. we have to solve this long-term. we have to do some entitlement reform. you will vote for some. >> i rather not do that. i don't think it will solve the problem. connell: that is higher taxes. >> no, no. not necessarily. if you get rid of some of the loopholes, it is not talking about raising -- [talking over each other] >> we have always said we want to broaden the base and lowered the rates. that is the principal where we are trying to move forward. the principle is sound. you have to be coupled with cutting spending. that is the problem we have on the democratic side. we know it is difficult for them. it is not what they want to do. if they are serious about it, they have to give us some specificity. connell: we keep seeing all of these polls were the republicans take the blame whether the president. you buy into that? does that
, stimulus tax extenders, the medicare patch, the mortgage plan they are is going to give mortgage credit. a lot of spending increases. you know, boehner is, i think you got to give him an a for being a valiant guy. he's down to 1.75 to 1 on spending cuts to revenues. now they originally wanted to start out with about three. the president's plan is zero spending cuts. i'm just saying boehner is down to 1.75 to one. that could be a problem, jimmy. >> we have the 800 billion which i read it and bloomberg is reporting the same thing, 800 billion is 800 billion before of what was based on economic growth, bring in more revenue. this $800 billion is done on a static basis, purely by getting rid of deductions. they are unnamed. this is a huge concession on the part of the house republicans and you're right. a balanced plan according to economists is one that's heavy on the spending cuts, light on the tax increases. that's what the house republicans have give end. still too heavy on the tax increases as opposed to the president's plan which was widely heavy on the tax hikes but harley any spendi
is the only way of stabilizing debt. the sink guegle biggest driver medicare. so if we don't make those tough decisions now, all we've done is a european style kick the can down the road and, you know, it's tough to cut entitlements and it's tough to cap deductions. austerity doesn't have to look like just taxing your way out of it. if you want to not work, you just tax your way out of it. >> i think we have to remember that this is politics and not economics going on here. that's the most important thing i think people have to remember. and we know we want more revenue and cut spending. that's why we have the problem to begin with. you have to accept that issue. le politicians aren't willing to accept that issue yet. both are at extremes. if you accept they're both at exseee extre extremes, how did we raise revenue. because the politics, not because of economics, they will not raise marginal rates. >> although we have heard some people say they would go along with that. >> i agree. the center is actually saying that. but i think -- so if the democrats know that, which everybody knows, give o
? this is big news. what are you waiting for? of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting through all the political spin. because for our 37 million members, only one word counts. get the facts at earnedasay.org. let's keep medicare... and social security strong for generations to come. >>> that's a beautiful picture of the united states capitol. it's 6:44 in the morning. back here in new york city, welcome back to "morning joe." time for our "must-read op-eds." the one we're going to lead with comes from the weekend from "the new york times." headline, "the monster of monticello," talking, of course, about thomas jefferson. we just happen to have thomas jefferson's biographer, jon meacham here, so this is perfect. let's read a little of this. "there is, it is true, a compelling paradox about jefferson when he wrote the declaration of independence, announcing the self-evident truth that all men are created equal, he owned some 175 slaves
mean specifically. he won't tell us. we already did over $700 billion in savings in medicare by stopping overpayments and doing a number of other things that focus on prevention. of course, we are willing to sit down and look at everything within the context of what's good for seniors and people. at this point, if they have line, show us what it is and be specific. we are being very specific. pass the senate bill. >> we have already done $1 trillion of cuts so we are not afraid of taking on the challenge is coming true. they have an opportunity today, right now, to make sure that middle-class america not only texas of our to do less but has a great christmas. and making sure they have a tax cut january 1. we have done $1 trillion and medicare and we have done our position on taxes and we're waiting for the specifics. it is pretty simple. >> will also passed a farm bill on the son of that which was bipartisan which almost -- with almost $24 billion in cuts which they can pass and have additional cuts. >> will there be any deal to raise the tops -- top tax rates? >> we ran an e
are somebody, job creation. we have spending cut and medicare saving and we need re-knew. >> john: four weekends until the country goes over the fiscal cliff. bring in panel. charles lane for "washington post" with us. nina easton from quot fortune" magazine and of course, sindcated columnist charles krauthammer. get to the fiscal cliff in a second. but first, the job report this morning, 7.7% unemployment because so many people left the workforce. 146,000 jobs. the question a lot of people are asking is when are we going get back to good honest job creation to grow the economy? what is it going to take? >> political will in a word. what is interesting about the jobs numbers and the economy in general is that it's not so much the fundamentals of the economy. businesses who hire people who create jobs which nancy pelosi is looking for are looking for political will out of washington. they are looking for certainty on the fiscal cliff. certainty that debt reduction, there will be debt reduction, that entitlements will be brought under control. looking for certainty on taxe taxes. until th
. you're right. folks who say get government out of medicare, there is no logic to what they're saying. do youdo you buy it, but boehner is trying to harness and hold together that is fraught with inconsistencies. >> well, first of all i agree with sam. i think-- >> eliot: am i outvoted? i'm not sure that i like this. >> it's a distinction without a difference in the first two groups, and i don't think there is a third group left not with any power. do i think boehner is trying to rein in his caucus by sending a couple of rookie pitchers down to aa? if john boehner wanted control of his caucus he could discipline paul ryan whose crazy economic inside are ideas are the hill that they're willing to die on. if john boehner wants to discipline somebody, let him get paul ryan out of the negotiation. >> eliot: i agree with you. i don't think that's likely to happen. only a few seconds left. dick army leaving freedom works with a mere $8 million self republicans pay. >> he's getting paid $400,000 year for the next 20 years for not coming in to work. his salary was $500,000 a year. so he's get
, and i thought it was remarkable, we're in danger of becoming the party that defends the rich, anti-medicare, anti-social security, and there's no future in that kind of republican party nor is there one in a party that's anti-handicapped. >> let me go to john on this because you and i, john, i think we all know people in our business, in the journalism world, and in consulting who have handicaps. they are in wheelchairs, but they raise a ruckus effectively if there's some facility that doesn't allow them access or a reasonable way of getting through that situation. i think it's a nonpartisan issue, but your side of the aisle seems to think, on the right, anytime the u.n. is involved it's frightening. >> there are some people who say the more control we give to the u.n., we're losing u.s. sovereignty. >> explain how that works. no, explain in this case how that works. >> as you said before, in the u.s. we have made great progress with people with disabilities. rick santorum has a child who is a special needs child with a disability. so he took a hard look at this legislation, and the problem
billions and not have to affect the general public and their social secrity and medicare. dan says, thii tax bite is why we should hold elections on april 15th. that is a great idea. it all comes together. i lov haring from you. send me an e-mail. gerri@foxbusiness.com. finally tonight, just when you thought of retiring massachusetts congressman -- congressman barney frank was stepping out of the limelight, no way. the boston globe reporting the 72-yar-old democratic congressman whois set toretire in january hired the big shot hollywood agency william morris to represent hiin the next phase of his career. william morris is run by r.e.m. manuel, the brother of chicago mayor and the inspiration for the character ari goldman the
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